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Re: Wellington Close aka Walton Flats

Post by Waltonwatcher » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:52 am

The original planning approval said they needed to get the colours of the cladding approved. I do think planning can be rather long winded. Planning should be there to stop developers just ripping up housing and building huge tower blocks.

Woking has about 3-4 new tower blocks 15 or so storey high. It's becoming the new Croydon. I think minor follow ups to planning should be more fast tracked. I guess there is always someone who wants to debate military grey over ocean grey. That or the neighbour who just likes to moan about their neighbour.

The old Birdseye building for me had way too much debate. People clinging onto the past over a derelict building that had been out of use for 10 years.
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Re: Wellington Close aka Walton Flats

Post by Waltonwatcher » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:45 pm

http://www.dbfacades.com/wellington-close/

For those that want more details on these works that started recently.
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Re: Wellington Close aka Walton Flats

Post by Waltonwatcher » Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:54 pm

Been looking at planning site. Looks like they added a decision document for the materials today. So last hurdle to the work going ahead now cleared. Been checking this daily as predicted decision date was 02/10/2018.

Contractor on site and lifts for outside of the building are pretty much in place. Won't be long now till the cladding starts on the first flat.

To get this far has truly been a mamouth effort.

Although until they start removing the old cladding I won't take anything for granted. Amazed the old cladding has lasted so long.
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Re: Wellington Close aka Walton Flats

Post by NoOne » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:19 pm

Are they removing the old cladding ?
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Re: Wellington Close aka Walton Flats

Post by Waltonwatcher » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:40 pm

I don't believe they have removed any of the outer shell yet. They only just got planning permission for the parts. My understanding is they will gradually remove/replace the outer shell of the building working from top to bottom on a flat by flat basis. The windows are part of this shell so you can't simply remove it all in one go. Not sure these flats actually have cladding as such.

If you look at the contractor's website they talk about doing 2 flats first and allowing residents to see what the changes will look like. It will be 30+ weeks before they finish the first block according to their website. I think in next few weeks we will see exactly how they plan to replace the old cladding. Could do with an update from the managing company here.

Be interesting to see when they plan to do the roof works. Will it be first or left to end of works.
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Re: Wellington Close aka Walton Flats

Post by Davros » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:21 pm

Well I just drove past and (I shall eat my words) some of the original cladding/fascia has been removed so it’s all going ahead!

Brilliant for the residents and the whole town.
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Re: Wellington Close aka Walton Flats

Post by Waltonwatcher » Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:09 am

I think they were just removing the balconies first. They need to order in the parts. They couldn't do this till we had planning. Work is definately going ahead and I think a contract has been signed. Exciting times really. A lot of hard work has gone into this.

These flats could easily go for 350k after the works. Some people were selling for 185k because they lacked the funds. Not saying other work isn't required on these flats but the cladding and the roofing were the 2 biggest issues. We go into this work knowing the cladding and insulation are 100% suitable given what happened at Grenfell. I still wonder what might have happened if this work happened 3-4 years back and suddenly we found the cladding and insulation had to be taken down. Timing has worked out well.
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Re: Wellington Close aka Walton Flats

Post by Davros » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:39 pm

Interesting yellow coverings over all the windows in the first block.

Must make for an interesting ambience inside :wink:

I see some work taking place
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Re: Wellington Close aka Walton Flats

Post by mvp » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:03 pm

There is a new planning application in for Wellington Close 2018/3338

They want to remove four windows per flat by the look, only reason given is good old "Health & Safety" - strange how this has never come up over the years with the numerous surveyors, builders, contractors, council planning all having approved the new design in 2017, and after they have started the job.

I guess cutting the window numbers by 4 x 108 flats is cheaper for the builder....
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Re: Wellington Close aka Walton Flats

Post by Waltonwatcher » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:50 pm

The actual overall window size compared to previous plan is up 39% for the overall block. Yes there are fewer windows but this is compensated by wider and much taller windows. This will allow more light into each flat than the previous planning. All of this information was sent out to residents recently. I really doubt this was done to save cost given the increase in glazed windows here.

Yes lots of people have been involved in this complicated process. It's not been an easy 10 years for many. It's taken a lot of hard work by a few residents here to make sure this project stays on track.

If you look at the DB Facades link you can see work is progressing well and 39% of block A work is now complete. With 8% of the spur block work complete. Windows on the new outer shell to be installed soon. The council planning office has initially approved the new plans to allow work to continue. This new cladding will bring much needed insulation. double glazing, new roof and a brand new look to the buildings. Replacing a structure that had past it's original shelf life.
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Re: Wellington Close aka Walton Flats

Post by mvp » Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:27 am

The only reason for the removal of four windows per flat given in the planning application is "Health and Safety"

How can wider and taller windows be safer than three smaller windows?
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Re: Wellington Close aka Walton Flats

Post by Davros » Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:03 am

Nice to see the refurbishment going on a pace in at the first block. All looks very promising driving past the site.

I see one of the apartments is up for sale for 189k. I wonder if that includes the price of the refurb or not.

Got to be a bargain compared to some of the children’s shoe box size places currently on sale in the town.
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Re: Wellington Close aka Walton Flats

Post by Waltonwatcher » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:23 am

1st block is 52% complete now. Spur block 33% complete. 85% of windows now fitted to 1st block. The old windows will eventually be removed from inside each flat/block. Should be quite safe for resident with new outer curtain fitted. I am told they expect first block to be completed in March.

Planning got approved a few days ago. Variation of build and parts used for cladding. Which is great news.

I think there is someone selling. At those prices they perhaps have not paid for the cladding. I expect flats after work to be worth circa 300k pending condition of flat. The Heart go for a lot more. These are big flats with great views.

The linked D and B website has a good picture of the works.
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Re: Wellington Close aka Walton Flats

Post by Waltonwatcher » Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:51 pm

57% block A and 35% spur block now. Looks like they have started on the roof now. I think the first block could be done early/mid March now.

The new roof will stop water seeping into the building which has been problems for some flats.

One of spur block flats on sale for 219k. Which places flat value at 280k or so.
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Re: Wellington Close aka Walton Flats

Post by Waltonwatcher » Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:06 pm

Some excellent new images on the D and B website of the outside of block A. The curtain wall is now 90% complete! Great to see the new rainscreen panels going up in last day or so. Overall block is 64% done. Spur block 45%. It looks really smart. Bet those flats will welcome that insulation and double glazing with snow on the way. Not sure how far they are in terms of removing the old windows. I think they won't be removed till the roof is finished and scaffolding is gone. Can't have residents opening windows with lifts still installed.

It's possible all 3 blocks could be done by end of the year. 3-4 months each.
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